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Kimberly Milligan

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French Dip Crescent Ingredients: 2 packages crescent rolls, 8 count 1 pound deli roast beef, thinly sliced 4 ounces Swiss or provolone cheese, cut in 16 equal sized pieces. Bake at 375 degrees for 11 to 13 minutes, until crescents are a golden color. Serve with Au Jus and enjoy!

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MommyNamedApril
thank you so much for pinning my recipe, but please don't put the entire text of the recipe on pinterest. thank you and happy new year!!!

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Kelli Ott-Pfeiffer
i must give this a try looks great !

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Rob Learn
Delightful!

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MommyNamedApril
sure, just please don't pin the text of the article. just the title or a comment. THANK YOU!!!

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MommyNamedApril
@sharon e - because republishing someone's article without their permission is content stealing. i know a lot of people don't realize and do it with good intention, but that doesn't make it okay :-)

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Jamie
Because she wants people to visit her sight not just take the recipe and go.

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Erika Felt
Reasonable request :)

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Emily Childers
Well, I guess don't put your recipe on the web as people think the web is a free for all. Sorry, if you don't want people copying your stuff......it shouldn't go on the web in the first place.

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MommyNamedApril
@emily Childers - the web is by no means a "free for all" - writing recipes is how I make money to pay bills and feed my family. it's no different than taking from a book or magazine. Regardless of what some people think, intellectual property rights apply to things published on thei nternet too.

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MommyNamedApril
@jamie & @erica felt - thank you for understanding

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MommyNamedApril
@sharon e - i'm not sure what's weird? as far as i know, i don't have any pins on my boards that go against what i'm asking her to do. if there are any it they would absolutely be inadvertent repins, probably done from my phone, and i would gladly edit the text. i'm sorry you feel the way you do, but if the owner of content politely asked me to edit the text of my pin i would do it, no questions asked. i'm not mad at anyone, just trying to protect my own interests.

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Karen Kronjaeger
Pretty simple, if you don't want it shared or "stolen" then don't post it. And the web is at the exact opposite of the spectrum from a bookstore or such as you used the "taking from a book or magazine" stay calm and Pin on

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MommyNamedApril
Also - printing the directions is fine, it's republishing the full text of my article on another website (i.e. pinterest) that is not fine.

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Danielle Smith
@Karen Kronjaeger - April is completely calm. And in fact, her book/magazine comparison is spot on. The content she is mentioning is, in fact, content she created, content she owns. Putting content online - whether it is a picture, a recipe, a DIY craft does not entitle someone to 'steal' it. Pinning or sharing is a beautiful thing - this site is amazing for that. However, the actual beauty of the site is in that it allows users to not only see content in a one-dimensional fashion (the picture only), but to follow the picture to its original source (April's site in this case) for the recipe. This series of events is WHY Pinterest has garnered the attention and clout it has this year - not only for pretty pictures but because it is driving traffic and helping to create revenue. April does own that picture and the recipe. By posting ALL of her content with the 'pin', it undercuts her ownership, and by proxy, potentially some of her revenue stream.

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Elizabeth Gray Felty Forest
it would be more professional to contact the pinner in a private email instead of hashing it out publicly in the comments and risking being misunderstood by other pinners. I contacted pinterst once and had them removed something of mine from someone's board and no one ever knew I had complained so that's a good option too.

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Julie Pron
It's not just content stealing, it's plagiarism. While I'm not certain what "rules" Pinterest has, the US certainly has laws governing Intellectual Property Rights and they DO extend to the internet. If you question those laws, you can find them here: http://www.plagiarism.... It's time for Pinterest to step up and take a stand, clarify these rules as in line with the laws so that all members of Pinterest, and other curating sites, have an understanding and are not held accountable.

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Karen Kronjaeger
@danielle I was referring to the "keep calm and [blank]" that is ever popular in here, tee shirts, clothing etc. Guess I'm plagiarizing. Oops.

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Sarah Hubbell
The web is NOT a free for all. Never has been, never will be. The idea that you should not post something you don't want stolen is ludicrous. Her request was perfectly calm and totally reasonable and I agree it is not necessary to make such a request private. Clearing up misconceptions on copyrights online is important.

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Amy Bradley-Hole
@MommyNamedApril is absolutely right, and I thank her for bringing attention to this subject!

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Katja Presnal
Yes - thank you for bringing attention to this subject and the ethical way of using Pinterest.

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Sara Harpster
Glad this discussion happened publicly, as I never gave much thought to taking away from traffic revenue...I will be sure to keep a closer eye on my pins, thank you! PS, pinning this now, the hubby will love this for the super bowl!

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Carmen Cerevisiae
I often add notes on the pin so that I don't have to return to the original site later to remember what it entailed. I didn't really think it through, I guess, that people re-pinning now don't have to go to the original site. I'm heading to my boards now to edit my pins and rectify this.

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Jeannette Aurora - Crafty Hippo Designs
If Congress passes the SOPA law Pinterest, and most blogs for the matter, will no longer exist. Any site with copyrighted material will be pulled down completely. Facebook, YouTube, and Amazon will likely be removed as well.

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Karen Kronjaeger
In reply to SOPA law these websites- FB, Twitter, Tumblr, Etsy, PayPal and Pinterest have all gone on record with multiple media outlets in the stand against censoring and SOPA saying they'd move inc headquarters to another country that does not ban any ans all copyrights(censorship/freedom of publication rights). Plus are thinly,but still covered under " The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), passed in 1998, includes a provision, known as the Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act, that provides a "safe harbor" for websites that host content"

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Rob Learn
No more! I repeat no more! I made the mistake of compimenting a creative recipe and I've been subjected to two days worth of ramblings about copyright laws, intellectual property, SOPA, etc. Let it go! Enough is enough, it's a recipe! Cook it or don't - this is no place to lecture - take it a blog for goodness sakes! How about some courtesy and end this string of comments right now! Thanks for ruining this recipe or me! I refuse to make this now because of all the kackling back and forth. Enjoy the Pinterest app/website and find better uses of your time!

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Jeannette Aurora - Crafty Hippo Designs
@Rob You can turn the notifications off so you aren't alerted to discussions on the things you re-pin

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Misha Reed
Oh my! My mouth dropped open when I saw these! Can you say yum?!!

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Sara Hawkins
Unfortunately, there is a lot of misinformation about copyright, plagiarism and content theft going on in this thread. Plagiarism is not illegal in the US. Unethical, yes. But not illegal. Thus, websites don't have to do anything about alleged plagiarism. Copyright, they do. But not everything is subject to copyright and the US Copyright laws are very clear as to what is covered by copyright. Just because you created it doesn't mean you can lawfully claim copyright on your creation. If you're not sure if something is covered by copyright, ask someone who knows. This being said, Pinterest is, as @DanielleSmith indicated, a beautiful thing to showcase those items that piqued your interest. Don't pass things off as your own, link to the original source. People create things to share and encourage others, not so they can be ripped off. Pinterest's Terms are very clear and in line with common practice regarding the protection of intellectual property online. Just because people don't read them doesn't mean they don't apply or exist. I commend Pinterest for actually writing their Terms in plain language rather than legalese and for being succinct and not being 52 pages long.

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Kim McClelland
Omg this is going to be a huge hit in our home!

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Mark Suman
bheybhie jhen is a dirty spammer from a pinterest copy-cat. You should delete the comment.

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Toni Hopper
I like the fact that I can click through and actually get to the original site where a recipe, DIY or other pinterest came from. I like to surf that way!

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Jacqueline Ledbetter
I don't understand why the upsets? If you click on the picture, it goes right to her blog?

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Jeannette Aurora - Crafty Hippo Designs
Because with the recipe posted, there is no need to click the photo and go to her blog.

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Jennie Gordon
Thursday night's dinner!

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Lisa Moore
Looks good

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Jacqueline Ledbetter
Oh Jeannette, I always click on the picture, I don't pay that much attention to what is written.

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Jacqueline Ledbetter
Whenever I re-pin something, I always break down the wording, if you have the whole recipe on there, it takes up too much room on my boards:) Also, I personally Love checking out others blogs!

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Jeannette Aurora - Crafty Hippo Designs
Me too. Plus I hate having to name my pins. I try to use descriptive words so it opens in more searches. When I search for pizza I hope to see pizza but some people name that pin "yummy" and I'd only see if it I searched for yummy.

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Nicole Glennon
These were delicious!

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Crystal Jones
I made these tonight. Very Good.

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Kimberly Milligan
I did not mean for this to turn into a witch hunt. I totally understand the wishes of MommaLoveFood.com. This is how she makes her money. I thought this was a fantastic recipe. I want to make it for my family. I NEVER try to pass of anything I pin as my own, unless it is my own, I ALWAYS include a link to the original. That being said. The reason why I started pinning the entire recipe is because on more than one occasion (in fact as recently as yesterday) I have gone back and tried to makes something and the link led me to a 404 server error. (meaning the page was gone) Now I have a craving for ginger orange chicken legs and no way to make it. :) I see this recipe was almost 2000 times I hope these people want to mommalovesfood.com because she has wonderful recipes there.

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Julie Pron
Kimberly, you're awesome. I think this conversation was very educational, eye-opening and, hopefully, one that many appreciated.

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MommyNamedApril
Thank you @kimberly :-) Much appreciated!

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Kelly Bliese
Made these ....they were delicious

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Kimberly Milligan
These were super yummy! thank you April!

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LaToya Irby
Not saying that stealing is ok, but... from copyright.gov (http://www.copyright.gov/fl...): Copyright law does not protect recipes that are mere listings of ingredients. Copyright protection may, however, extend to substantial literary expression—a description, explanation, or illustration, for example—that accompanies a recipe or formula or to a combination of recipes, as in a cookbook.

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Kelly French
Made these for the superwol and they were AWESOME!

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